This episode's conversation is with Steven Kotler, a best-selling author, journalist, and one of the world’s leading experts on flow and human performance.
Steven has spent three decades teaching people how to achieve peak performance, and of late, putting his own advice into practice as documented in his newest book, Gnar Country: Growing Old, Staying Rad. In it, Steven challenges us to test our own limits as he himself sets out to become an expert skier at age 53.
Using his understanding of embodied cognition and flow science, he puts theories and his own body to the test in order to challenge the perceived limitations of peak performance as we get older.
He’s authored fourteen books, eleven of which are New York Times bestsellers. He’s been nominated for a Pulitzer Prize twice, appeared in over 100 publications, and his work is translated into over 50 languages; and yet, Steven’s appeal comes from far more than a list of very impressive accolades. While endeavoring to help others be at their best, he puts his own teaching into practice so his perspective isn’t simply scientific, it’s personal.
As you’ll find out in this conversation, Steven embodies true grit and refuses to allow getting older to hold him back from achieving his highest potential. I think we can all find inspiration in these insights from a real badass who’s living life to the fullest and inviting you to do the same.
Chapters:
0:00 — Intro
2:19 — Steven’s 4th time on the podcast
3:35 — What is Gnar Country about?
6:23 — Identifying as an “old dog”?
9:47 — Going park skiing over 50
14:55 — Adrenal fatigue and PTSD
17:15 — What triggered his Gnar Country experiment
20:17 — Cognitive superpowers in your 40s & 50s
24:56 —Working through other people’s opinions
29:42 — What is the #1 thing that supports high performers?
32:40 — Progression and life-long learning
40:53 —Earning your own empowerment
42:06 — Self-talk and overcoming fear
45:40 — Transitioning to a new skill
48:28 — The formula — how to unlock skills as you age
56:32 — Peak performance aging
58:19 — High performance and flow for leaders in business
1:03:44 — Quick hits with Steven
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