I recommend watching at 1.25x speed or faster. The nature of the call makes it so that pauses in dialogue are inevitable.
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After initially reaching out to Roger in one of his comment sections, leading to an email exchange arranging a time, this is my first meeting with him and I have to admit I quite enjoyed it. The original purpose of our chat was to debate the merits of Name The Trait (NTT) but we ended up discussing multiple topics as necessary - after all, this was our first meeting and we had to learn about each other's views before we could really engage deeper.
Topics covered include: defining veganism, NTT, crop deaths, and finding common ground on some topics.
By the end of the chat we agreed to do a follow-up. I will upload it in the near future.
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