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In this clip with Carl Jones, the talk revolved around Fleece Johnson, infamously known as the "Booty Warrior" for his viral video from a prison-based show. Johnson, known for his catchphrase about doing things "the easy way or the hard way," later became featured in a spoof episode on the show "The Boondocks" with Carl Jones voicing his character. Johnson was released from prison in 2023 and recorded a message for the show hosts, reiterating his famous catchphrase. There were negotiations for an interview with Johnson, but Vlad ultimately declined due to their discomfort with his past as a rapist. Johnson's release stirred discussions about prison reform, with Vlad stating his aversion to interviewing criminals such as rapists and his empathy for young men getting involved in crime and then experiencing rape in prison.

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