Now that we're past Peak Wokeness, has "heterodoxy" exhausted itself? That's the argument of David Fuller, co-founder of Rebel Wisdom, a popular but now retired media brand. We discuss the problem of audience capture, whether Eric Weinstein and Jordan Peterson lost the plot, why David and Alexander decided to shut down Rebel Wisdom, and the deep-reaching effects that Covid has had on public intellectual life.

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0:00 Intro
0:57 What happened in India to end Rebel Wisdom?
6:45 What was the "heterodox" moment?
11:19 Jordan Peterson's jump off the deep end
15:52 Mindfulness
18:22 COVID sent us off the rails & social media
26:51 Falling out with Brett Weinstein
32:33 The future of honest independent media
36:45 Crowdfunding, Dave Rubin, & conspiracy theories
41:20 Toxic vs mature masculinity
49:35 Building a production company, legacy vs independent media
59:26 Closing words

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