Paris Marx is joined by Sasha Luccioni to discuss the catastrophic environmental costs of the generative AI being increasing shoved into every tech product we touch.
Sasha Luccioni is an artificial intelligence researcher and Climate Lead at Hugging Face.
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Also mentioned in this episode:
• Sasha published a paper ([ Ссылка ]) looking at the climate impacts of generative AI.
• Paris wrote about the increased emissions at Google and Microsoft ([ Ссылка ]) , and the consequences of the growing data center buildout ([ Ссылка ]) .
• Google’s emissions are up 48% ([ Ссылка ]) in five years, while Microsoft’s are up 30% ([ Ссылка ]) between 2020 and 2023.
• Bill Gates is telling governments not to “go overboard” ([ Ссылка ]) with concerns about AI energy use. He’s been much more active ([ Ссылка ]) in Microsoft’s AI strategizing than he’s admitted publicly.
• Microsoft President Brad Smith says its carbon “moonshot” is much farther away ([ Ссылка ]) because of generative AI. The company is accelerating ([ Ссылка ]) its data center construction plans.
• Sam Altman says we can geoengineer the planet ([ Ссылка ]) if we can’t develop an energy breakthrough to power AI.
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