Sandra Tanner joins John, Gerardo, and Jenn to discuss the context left out of LDS Church curriculum about early Mormon polygamy and to respond to the followHIM podcast featuring Church Women's Historian Kate Holbrook.
Follow along with D&C 132: [ Ссылка ]
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Part 3: [ Ссылка ]
Show Notes:
"Doctrine and Covenants 129-132 with Dr. Kate Holbrook," on followHIM
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Full text of "The Happiness Letter," Joseph Smith's Alleged 1842 Letter to Nancy Rigdon
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"A Study in Religious Manipulation," Jonathan Streeter on "The Happiness Letter"
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"Nancy Rigdon and the Happiness Letter," on Mormon Discussion podcast
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Under the Banner of Heaven: A Story of Violent Faith by Jon Krakauer
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"Kingdom Come," by David Van Biema, Time, June 24, 2001
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A Woman's View, Helen Mar Kimball Whitney's Journals
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"Joseph Smith and Other Men's Wives," by Dan Vogel
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Part 2: [ Ссылка ]
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Full court transcript of the "Temple Lot Case"
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"'Warts and all' in Smith biography," Deseret News, October 1, 2005
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Joseph Smith's Polygamy by Brian Hales
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Let's Talk About Polygamy by Brittany Nash
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"Polygamy and the Church's Past," Brittany Chapman Nash on All-In podcast
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"Rebuking Iniquity," 1856 Brigham Young address threatening to divorce his wives if they didn't stop "whining," Journal of Discourses Vol. 4
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In Heaven as It Is on Earth: Joseph Smith and the Early Mormon Conquest of Death by Samuel Brown
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In Sacred Loneliness: The Plural Wives of Joseph Smith by Todd Compton
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"For Eternity Alone," a poem by Helen Mar Kimball in which "for time" may mean she agreed to be sealed to Joseph, only to find out later that she was expected to have sex with him
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"The Joseph Smith-Sylvia Sessions Plural Sealing: Polyandry or Polygyny?" by Brian Hales, Mormon Historical Studies, April 2013
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Elder Jeffrey R. Holland at Sisters Devotional in Lima, Peru, in January 2020
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Utah Lighthouse Ministry
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Timecodes:
00:00:00 Introduction &recap of Part 1
00:17:37 D&C132 explicitly does not require the first wife's consent
00:30:27 Polygamy as an "Abrahamic test," in which God commands someone to break a previous commandment as a test of their faith and obedience
00:44:13 The "Happiness Letter," Joseph's alleged 1842 marriage proposal to Nancy Rigdon; when the letter was published, Nancy was shunned as a whore
00:56:26 "Concubines" in D&C132 and the "restoration of all things"
01:15:31 "The Lord's house is a house of order": The inconsistent rules of Mormon polygamy
01:27:03 Associates of Joseph were excommunicated for polygamy while Joseph was already engaging in it
01:45:32 Were Joseph's plural wives capable of consenting to marry him?
01:57:54 Apologist claims that Joseph's plural marriages weren't all sexual
02:07:40 Apologists pin Joseph's polygamy revelation at 1833, because otherwise his relationship with Fanny Alger would just be adultery
02:14:59 Can we trust William Clayton, the scribe who wrote down D&C132?
02:22:34 Trusting post hoc memories only when it suits the Church's narrative, but dismissing them as misremembered when it doesn't
02:28:05 "I get my history from trained historians"---so long as they agree with what I already believe!
02:32:34 What do we make of the statements from women, like Helen Mar Kimball in adulthood, who expressed support for polygamy?
02:46:55 Polygamy has never been practiced the way it's laid out in D&C132, which is explained away with "continuing revelation"
02:54:29 Did Joseph really believe polygamy was from God? Aren't there easier ways to have extramarital affairs than to create a religion?
03:05:23 The suffering of Helen Mar Kimball
03:23:04 Polyandry and the question of dynastic sealings
03:30:39 Elder Jeffrey Holland responds to member questions about the unworkable math of sealing spouses after death or divorce
03:34:03 The claim that Helen consented to marry Joseph
03:39:21 Closing remarks
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