“The idea is you kind of wipe out Gaza, as a problem for Israel… you can only achieve that on the level of ruthlessness, cruelty and dehumanisation like we have seen”

Israeli historian Ilan Pappe says Israel’s war on Gaza, while inflicting horrific torment on Palestinians, will be a strategic loss. He also analyses the possible end-game scenarios that competing interest groups within Israel are pushing for, and why Palestinian leaders, in addition to calling for an end to the unfolding “genocide”, need to be readying themselves for a moment where we could see Palestinian liberation.

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