Kevin O'Sullivan and Isabel Oakeshott discuss their join scepticism over Labour's environment and green initiatives with Kevin being 'terrified' over what he says is a £7bn gamble by Keir Starmer's government to 'virtue signal' over green issues.
The pair also talk about Western support for Ukraine against Russia, with Kevin O'Sullivan says it's important to keep Putin in check, but people should not completely shut down any debate over what others might think about the situation.
As the situation in Ukraine continues, questions are raised about what a Trump presidency would lead to, with Isabel Oakeshott suggesting the Democrats must be horrified at how they have handled President Biden and the ongoing campaign.
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