At Talking Justice 2016, Martin Flanagan recalled the documentary made by Bill Johnson, Liyarn Ngarn, which follows his old friend the late British actor Pete Postlethwaite on an eye opening road trip around Australia. Pete's visit followed the racist murder of Bill's adopted Aboriginal son, Louis St John Johnston. While Postlethwaite is on the road with Archie Roach and meets Patrick Dodson and is prompted to make the observation that terra nullius equates to Australia's creation myth. Martin asks fellow Talking Justice presenter Shane Howard to talk about the moment when he first realised that there was another reality in this country that he couldn't ignore.
