Are all geniuses rebels? Steve “Spaz” Williams changed movie history creating the first realistic monsters in James Cameron’s The Abyss, Terminator 2, and then Steven Spielberg’s Jurassic Park. Now the big new doc “Jurassic Punk” reveals how he refused to play the game, got ignored at the Oscars, got pissed in more ways than one, and maybe found contentment. On our pod we talk about it all as we get a tour of his beautiful house in the Ozarks and pretend we get all the tech talk.

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