Today it’s great to have Katie Herzog and Jesse Singal on the podcast. Herzog’s writing has appeared in an array of publications, and she’s a former staff writer at the Seattle Alt. Weekly: The Stranger. Singal is a contributing writer at New York Magazine where he previously edited Science of Us, a behavioral science vertical. He also has a newsletter where he writes about behavioral science, media, and other stuff, the other stuff part being: a lot of other stuff. His book about half-baked viral psychology: The Quick Fix, is coming out in about a year. Together, Herzog and Signal co-host the Blocked and Reported Podcast.
Time Stamps
[2:22] How Katie and Jesse first met
[04:05] Katie’s background
[05:08] Jesse’s background
[06:14] How Blocked and Reported gives space for free discussion based on evidence
[9:45] How Blocked and Reported provides shelter from toxic communication on social media
[11:57] Katie’s experience of freedom of speech without fear of losing her job
[15:40] On the denial of the limitations of free speech in professional media
[17:25] Avoiding biases and one-sidedness
[27:12] The human tendency to protect group ego by ostracizing those who are different
[36:25] Is victimhood mentality productive?
[39:05] The risks of public protests in the middle of a pandemic
[45:24] The limits of validating identity claims
[55:12] Discrimination against trans people
[58:46] The importance of ideological diversity
[1:00:28] The damage of radicalized statements that turn away people from your cause
[1:01:34] The weaponizing of outrage online
[1:03:29] Katie and Scott’s history in performance
[1:06:47] Scott, Katie, and Jesse’s college days
[1:09:00] The need to prove your morality on social media
[1:13:16] Katie’s Dad’s influence on her as an anthropologist
[1:15:40] Katie and Jessie’s list of most influential journalists
[1:18:40] Katie and Jessie’s motivation for in-depth, careful journalism
NOTE: This is a Patreon exclusive episode, which means that only the first half is available for public consumption. The rest of the episode is only available to Patreon subscribers.
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