Verde Magazine interviewed Ron Jones, the creator of the Third Wave social experiment, in both 2016 and 2020 to see his differing views on how his work relates to government and authoritarianism today.
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Videography by Emma Cockerell (2016) and Akhil Joondeph (2020)
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Edited by Jerry Fang
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