In this engaging interview, Mike from LDS Discussions,@NEMOTHEMORMON and John Dehlin review the failed prophecies of Mormonism's founder, Joseph. They start by discussing what the Bible says about failed prophecies and those who tell them. They then delve into specific failed prophecies, including the Second Coming of the Lord in 1891, the fall and overthrow of the US government, and the "everlasting" covenant of the United Order. Other failed prophecies discussed include the failed treasure seeking mission to Salem and the failed attempt to sell the Book of Mormon copyright.

Was Joseph was wrong or is it was God's fault? What good is having General Conference, either way? The hosts also discuss how FAIR Mormon tries to spin failures into fulfillments and concludes with some final thoughts on the implications of these failed prophecies of Joseph for Mormons today.

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00:00:00 Introduction
00:03:40 What the Bible Says About Failed Prophecies
00:05:00 If Joseph isn’t a prophet, it follows that Russel Nelson certainly isn’t
00:06:00 “Super-obvious department”
00:08:00 The Second Coming of the Lord in 1891
00:13:00 Failed Prophecy and continued belief
00:15:15 The Fail and Overthrow of the US Government
00:17:00 Death = “overthrown” poor apologetics
00:20:00 Is Joseph wrong or is it God?
00:25:00 Why bother w/General Conference? (Keep for closer to GC time)
00:28:30 The “Everlasting” Covenant of the United Order
00:30:00 I’m so tired of angry, toddler God
00:37:30 Leaving old revelation in to use it in the “future”
00:40:50 A Temple Will Be Built in the New Jerusalem
00:57:45 Joseph Smith Prophecy That Zion Will Not Fall
01:02:00 The Revelations During th Failing of Zion’s Camp/March
01:09:45 Blaming Members for Zion’s March Failing via God
01:17:15 Zelph the White Lamanite was Found During Zion’s Camp
01:25:00 “Zelph x 1000”
01:30:45 The Unfortunate Death of David W Patten
01:32:15 Failed Treasure Seeking Mission to Salem
01:35:00 Why can’t God create his own wealth/food/resources etc?
01:36:30 FAIR Mormon Explains the Salem Trip was Not God’s Idea?
01:43:15 The Failed Attempt to Sell the Book of Mormon Copyright
01:49:55 God’s confusing powers
01:52:00 How FAIR Mormon Tries to Spin a Failure into Fulfillment
01:54:00 John tells how he really feels about FAIR
01:56:30 Pestilence, Hail, Famine, and Earthquake Will Sweep the Wicked Away
01:59:30 How FAIR Mormon Explains this Failed Prophecy
02:03:20 Conclusions

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