This video snippet is taken from "The Art of Persistence – An Entrepreneur Who Doesn’t Stop Trying (Episode 34)"
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Jeff Bullas: I just want to go a little bit back to one of the points you raised when you moved to Denmark, is that the values between American culture and the Danish culture were quite different in that work defines American culture very much and the Danish go, "Why are you working 12 hours a day?" It's very interesting and that's what I love about travel in that you get to see every culture. You get to see each culture as you dive into it and you've spent four years in Denmark so you've got to see it a lot closer, up close and personal. So how are you dealing with the difference between American culture and Danish culture in terms of work culture four years later? Because American culture is very much about sales, get it done, get it done. Work late, work defines you, whereas the Danish culture, and I've experienced myself, this kind of culture is very much about work-life balance in a much different way to American culture. So four years later, how is that working for you now?

Taylor Ryan: Yeah. To be fair, it's almost five, but I don't know if they all blended together, the five years, but yeah. It's interesting I tried to articulate this to different people. When I explain it to folks back in the States, they get it. When I explain it out here, I think it comes off pompous or arrogance. But there is something that I recognize when I sit down with somebody who's absolutely brilliant and every once in a while you sit down with somebody and you're like, "Jesus," like, "This person has light-speed growth or they are eons ahead of me. I'll never be that good. I'll never be as good as this person in that one area. I don't recognize signs of brilliance out here very often because in order to be that level of amazing at a specific thing, you have to give your life to it. You have to give your time, your energy, your essence. Everything that you wake up and do is related to that thing.

Taylor Ryan: If your life also is, "Well, I enjoy my crossFit and I want to make sure that I get out to see the friends," and it's like, "Dude, that's great. Go for it." But in terms of you being somebody that I can look over and be like, "This is the most brilliant person I've ever met in this space, and it's an art form, they're so good at it." Those are the people that I want to surround myself with. I want to be around people that have such a drive and passion to be amazing and excelling in one particular area that I just start my hands on everything this person says is it and I don't find that out here.

Jeff Bullas: Look, there's no judgment from me on that at all. It's just I'm just intrigued by different cultures and how they approach life. And I think maybe American culture is much more a warrior culture where they just take no prisoners whether it's you haven't hit your sales targets for three months so off you go. I admire it. I've been to the States a lot. My blog was very much targeted Americans. I've been in and out, dipped in and out of American culture a lot. I suppose it's also up to your own attitude as a human in terms of what you're comfortable with.

Jeff Bullas: I tell you what I really admire is the American entrepreneurial spirit. It takes no prisoners. If you don't win, you're a loser. But I suppose I got a little bit older and going, "How important is it to earn an extra 10 bucks or 100 bucks or $1,000?" I'm going, "Will that change my life?" And I'll go, "No." So what's happiness about? ...And I think different cultures have different definitions of success. And guess what? There's no right or wrong on that.

Taylor Ryan: Yes. Oh, I absolutely agree. And I think ultimately, that that type of currency is something that you can't really replace somebody else's mindset or dream with what it is that you're driven by. And if your goal is to relax and allow for things to fall into place or to be inspired by a calm mind, then that is just as evenly accessible and also fine for somebody else. I would say the further you kind of break down, what is the reasoning and rationale behind that American mindset? ...It could be something in the way of just pure unabashed capitalism and greed. It could be somewhere in between.

Taylor Ryan: For me, I want to work on some of the hardest stuff to touch that nobody gets to get in front of because I am never satisfied with the technology that I get to work with or the people that I'm sometimes surrounded with. I want to be surrounded by brilliant people that care. I think “giving a shit” factors a big part of purpose, and if you're surrounded by people, it's like just a job. To me, it's not, I spend more time at work than I do around family or anything else. I want to make sure that it's the right thing that I'm aligning with.

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