Manager and music executive Ibrahim Hamad takes us on his long journey from meeting a then-unknown rapper named J.Cole in college to becoming his manager to helping him build a label, a festival and a media company as partners. Modest and soft spoken, for Cole's entire career Hamad has balanced friendship and business, acting as a sounding board, idea man, and relentless executor. And he learned how to do it all while on the job. In this episode he explains how he gets the best out of J.Cole, the pressure he puts on himself, and his vision for the future of Dreamville.

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