Douglas Murray and I discuss, among other topics, the collapse of grand narratives on the left and the right alike, the potential for the resultant explanatory and motivational void to be filled by more radical ideological ideas, and the dangers posed by the mutual recrimination that all-too-frequently characterizes relationships across the left-right divide.
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- Chapters -
(0:00) Intro
(1:11) The collapse of grand narratives
(5:30) Filling the meaning gap with identity politics
(7:44) Crafting a centrist democrat message
(9:15) The Right has a harder story to sell
(10:35) The suspicion of thought
(13:32) Identity politics and victim labels
(18:29) The notion of identity
(20:57) Abigail Shrier, viscous consequences
(24:29) Stripping truths based on group affiliation
(27:30) Understanding each other
(30:50) The othering of Trump supporters
(36:17) Trump was an anti-intellectualism reaction
(40:48) When Jordan Peterson Channels his Inner Redneck
(42:15) When reality is subjective, resentment builds
(45:47) When the margin of victory is no larger than the margin of error
(49:40) A degeneration to conspiratorial paranoia
(52:29) Political discussion today is not results oriented
(54:30) Inequality and the eye of Sauron
(56:54) Fascism as it occurs in America
(1:00:05) Jan 6th, and what’s hiding in the woodshed
(1:04:59) Antifa comparisons, irredeemable distrust
(1:10:18) Media matters, unless you’re in America
(1:15:30) Andy Ngo, small fallacies in reporting have big impacts
(1:20:06) Post-election Trump from a psychological perspective
(1:24:25) The Democrats are making a Conservative argument
(1:25:31) Trading the long term for the short term
(1:29:56) Trust and the divide
(1:35:35) Forgiveness
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