How Glenn and Carol first met 0:31
Carol’s 1993 book, Black Faces, Black Interests 5:19
Would Stacey Abrams have won if she were pro-life? 7:31
Carol’s journey to Christianity 12:31
Carol’s prescient book on the new white nationalism 21:45
Carol: “I have a lot of respect for Jared Taylor” 27:04
Carol’s harsh critique of identity politics on college campuses 33:34
Are black conservatives winning, losing, or something else? 45:16
Why Carol loves Donald Trump 49:12

Glenn Loury (Watson Institute for International and Public Affairs, Brown University) and Carol M. Swain (carolmswain.com)

Recorded May 23, 2020

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