Stipe goes deep into R.E.M.’s 1991 classic Out of Time, which just celebrated its 30th anniversary. “A lot of songs about death,” he says. “But there’s an immense amount of catharsis.” He also clears up the long-running fan argument over “Losing My Religion”: it’s “fool,” not “foal.” “That’s a baby lamb, right? A baby horse? I never liked horses. I like the idea of them, but I don’t want to touch them, and it turns out they don’t want to touch me either.”


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