In Episode 273, Trev and AJ open the vaults to bring back an old favorite: an interview with working actor Darren Pettie. Darren was featured on the podcast way back in Episode 80—and his journey, from the military to the stages of New York and L.A., from Julliard to recurring roles on Mad Men, Ringer, and Madam Secretary—rings more true ever, even some 200 episodes later. Darren’s philosophy epitomizes the road of the committed artist: humble, hungry, and in it for the long haul. Total running time: 1:03:05.

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