Emily Maitlis speaks to Lord William Waldegrave, former Conservative Chief Secretary to the Treasury and author of Three Circles into One.
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He says Britain must be “realistic” about the sort of country it is now.
“Why can’t we be a middle-ranking, proud country?" he asks, before adding that he believes the UK could live in or out of Europe “perfectly well”.
Lord Waldegrave is Provost of Eton College, the school that Boris Johsnon and fellow Conservatives David Cameron, Jacob Rees Mogg and Rory Stewart all attended.
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