Although best known as a producer, Clive Langer's short-lived group Clive Langer & the Boxes put out an exceptional EP on Radar Records in 1979 and a full-length on F-Beat the following year. In this episode, we also talk to Mr. Langer about his time with the Liverpool-based Deaf School, the seminal punk group Big In Japan, and his later production work alongside Alan Winstanley.

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