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Chapters:
00:00:00 - Welcome to Never Not Here
00:02:56 - The Growth of Transcendental Meditation in Fairfield
00:05:45 - A Diverse Spiritual Community in Fairfield
00:08:12 - The Blurring of Cultural Boundaries
00:11:23 - The Awakening Moment
00:13:59 - Sincerity and Genuine Practice
00:16:48 - The Profound Effects of Long Meditation
00:19:36 - The Process of Re-Entry from Meditation Retreats
00:22:28 - Unwinding Deep Stresses
00:24:52 - The Benefits of Dissolving Negative Experiences
00:26:35 - The Continuous Practice of Meditation
00:28:26 - The Reflection of Consciousness in the Nervous System
00:30:25 - Becoming a Better Reflector
00:32:21 - The African man's interpretation of the surroundings
00:34:31 - The Correlation of Concept and Experience
00:38:11 - The Presence of Babbling Saints and Articulating Experience
00:41:28 - Different Orientations and Experiences
00:45:27 - The Origins of Spiritual Traditions and Their Relevance Today
00:48:16 - The Qualities of Enlightenment
00:50:06 - Layers of Ignorance and the Essence of Consciousness
00:51:56 - Preferences and Enlightenment
00:54:03 - The Limitations of Conceptual Thinking
00:56:25 - Duality in Concepts: The Positive and Negative
00:58:40 - The Tragedy of Locked Perspectives
01:01:23 - Living in a State of Enlightenment
01:04:27 - Leaving the Incubator and Awakening
01:07:11 - The Illusion of Movement in Enlightenment
01:10:21 - Embracing Further Unfoldments in Education
01:13:33 - The Paradox of Seeking Answers
01:16:05 - Remembering the Nature of Thoughts
01:18:28 - Farewell for this Episode

I'm the Chief Cook and Bottle Washer at Buddha at the Gas Pump. Richard Miller hosts a similar interview show called Never Not Here. Somehow we connected and he asked to interview me, not necessarily as an awakened being or teacher, but as a fellow spiritual aspirant. In the summer of 1967, when I was 17 years old, I was driving through Westport, CT with three friends in the car. One of them in the back seat was reading from a commentary on the Tibetan Book of the Dead by Timothy Leary and Richard Alpert. A quiet but memorable realization dawned in me that there was such a thing as "enlightenment" and that realizing it was life's ultimate goal. I rather recklessly explored that possibility through drugs for a year, then saw the futility of that approach and learned Transcendental Meditation. I taught TM for 25 years and still meditate regularly, but am not affiliated with any particular spiritual organization. I respect any of them which seem to offer genuine benefits to their participants.

Interview recorded 6/5/2010.

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