The Abstinence Myth: A New Approach for Overcoming Addiction Without Shame, Judgment, Or Rules

Today's interview is a long and somewhat scandalous one, as today's guest is NOT entirely abstinent from drugs and alcohol! At the same time, I think what Dr Jaffe has to say is fascinating.

This is the unedited conversation, complete with an incoming phone call, a location change and little bit of therapy time for me. Enjoy!

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