Piers Morgan Uncensored with Rosanna Lockwood is joined by LGBT Manchester Foundation's Freda Wallace and transgender journalist and teacher Debbie Hayton to debate Prime Minister Rishi Sunak's consideration on a ban on trans women being allowed in female-only spaces.
Debbie believes that both trans women and cis women have been let down badly by poorly-written laws becoming based on feelings rather than the bigger structural issue. But Freda argues that it is more about societal norms. She also believes that transgender people are being used as a "political football" to play into the prejudice they face.
The debate continues to get heated until Freda starts to ask whether Debbie uses 'Mr' or 'Mrs', insisting it is important to know because it will decide their entitlement to women's safe spaces. Debbie reveals that she goes by 'Dr' and that it really isn't as big of a deal that Freda is making it out to be.
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