The EU's law to ban deforestation from the supply chains of its companies is frustrating trade partners abroad. Just take Indonesia, which says the law is harming its small farmers. The spat comes as the two are thrashing out a free trade deal and the EU needs Indonesia’s supply of minerals for batteries and computer chips. So does the EU back down on its environmental principles or put at risk its relationship with Indonesia and potentially harm important industries? DW's Daniel Winter spoke with Indonesia’s ambassador to Germany, Arief Havas Oegroseno, asking him if they’re close to sealing a deal.
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