Founder & Director of T1International, Elizabeth Pfiester, talks with physician, epidemiologist, educator, author, speaker, and podcast host Abdul El-Sayed. The conversation includes discussion about insulin pricing, broken healthcare systems, Big Pharma's influence, and what we as advocates can do about it.
Originally recorded during our #insulin4all Summit 2022.
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