Dr. Jordan B. Peterson speaks with geologist, educator, energy expert, and documentary filmmaker Scott Tinker. They discuss the ARC conference, the glacial periods throughout Earth's geological history, where we are now in the cycle, the gross fallacy of the Net Zero movement, the harsh realities of energy in the developing world, and the necessary balancing we can do right now in order to uplift all people, in all places.

Dr. Scott Tinker is an American geologist, educator, energy expert, and documentary filmmaker. Tinker has appeared in more than 20 documentary films with the intent to communicate scientific ideas to the general public. The 2012 film “Switch” presents a scientifically based look at the global energy transition. It's been screened in over 600 colleges and has gained a following for the Switch Energy Alliance, which brings in young people to learn about the processes of sustainable energy firsthand, while broadening discussion on the matter in an open format setting. Tinkers’ PBS show “Energy Switch” is a point counterpoint talk show that features energy communicators, experts, authors, and pundits.

This episode was filmed January 3rd, 2024

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(0:00) Tour Update 2024
(0:40) Coming up
(1:07) Intro
(3:47) The ARC conference, the most popular speech
(8:09) People are sick of politicization, but this message resonates
(13:34) How faith plays into science
(16:16) The challenge that Academics face, and why they can be led astray
(20:55) From geology to economics, TV, and the environment
(25:26) World cooling, Rapid world greening due to excess C02, and the shrinking of arid regions
(31:45) Time scale of dinosaurs and humans, realities of the sea level rising
(36:01) The advent of fossil fuels, why methane is one of the most versatile chemicals in the world
(41:19) The timeline starting point determines the conclusion in climate data, so when do we start?
(43:47) The value of Energy, One of the most important lessons about the distribution of foreign aid
(51:48) The sacrifice of energy security for moral posturing,
(54:02) How to rank order energy sources, cost/benefit analysis
(56:10) 60 percent of people already live in energy poverty
(58:04) The earth is greening: what you need to know
(59:10) The solution is staring us in the face
(1:00:31) “We will not achieve environmental sustainability on the backs of the poor—they won’t have it”
(1:01:47) A focus on efficiency could reduce 2/3rds of wasted energy
(1:04:18) It makes sense that developing countries will use energy sources we are trying to move past
(1:05:52) Lignite, and the idiocy of Germany’s power problem
(1:07:55) Net Zero is genuinely impossible due to China and India
(1:10:07) In whose interest is the climate agenda?
(1:14:37) Why the earth-worship narrative is so popular with young people
(1:18:56) “The elites have flipped worldviews”
(1:23:06) We need to move away from thinking that it is A or B
(1:24:08) We have decimated the oceans fisheries
(1:25:08) Massive downsides of renewable energy, balancing our trade-offs
(1:27:39) The meaning of music, a metaphor for balancing chaos
(1:31:39) We can only rely on bottom up information
(1:33:45) Greta Thunberg, “Look at their actions, not their words”




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